great memory derek (ignore the troll above me) i recall playing CTR (that's crash team racing) on ps1 as a kid and trying to get a platinum relic on crash cove. i collected all the time boxes and was just short of the platinum relic qualifying time. dismayed, i hung my head. but little did i know you get a time deduction bonus for getting all the boxes. this deduction pushed me into platinum range. i hi-fived a nearby friend real hard